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As an owner of several units in a Condo Assn., there wouldn't be a need for process servers if owners paid the dues on time. Boards of Directors can't pay Assn. bills when they don't get sufficient funds to pay their bill.
Too many owners get greedy and start renting out their units, then have problems with their tenants and then can't pay their dues.
Then of course we also have greedy law firms that feast on Condo de-construction lawsuits. Most builders are genuinely trying to provide affordable housing and these sleezy lawyers tear apart units, under the guize that the homeowners will get money. The only ones who really get money are the lawyers and their de-construction companies. The de-construction lawsuits become these lawyers primary source of income, along with the foreclosures they that assist with. I know of one Assn. that was put into a lawsuit and no owners knew what was happening until escrows started falling out. The lawyer, nor the Board of Directors, ever told any of the owners what they were doing.
Last but never least are the judges that don't know a doorknob from a drumstick, who grant huge awards, for pictures of gross construction, that really isn't. And, who gets the money? The lawyers and their hand picked de-construction company. It's the HOA's that end up on the short end of the stick, after lots of hate and discontent with owners that were lead to believe that 'they' were going to get money.
Posted Nov 4 2007 2:26AM CET
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Bonnie Stanley
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I followed up on the Orange County Regulations for Private Process Servers that Orange County Sheriff Carona's Office public information officer Jon Fleischman said he would get to us in May 2006.
Sheriff Carona's assistant promised to have a public information officer get the information to us either today or tomorrow.
She said that Captain Ron White is in charge of complaints for South Couthy and he can be contacted at (949) 425-1800.
Information from the clerk at the Orange County Sheriff's Office Civil Process Section on Mouton Parkway (949)472-6942 :
For tresspass by process servers, file a police report
For process servers going into private mail boxes, file a copmplaint with the police department and the U. S. Mail Services
Posted Oct 30 2007 7:38PM CET
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The sad part about all of this are the judges who will let these people get away with these things. They find loopholes or they just downright violate the law because they can. They just say 'well, you have the papers don't you? Then you are served.' It's b.s. Do lawyers with incestuous 'connections' to judges work together and "legally" violate the law in their favor?
Is that why so many people distrust lawyers, judges, the court system - because all too often - what the law says and what they do in court are two different things?
It sure seems like they get away with it, laugh about it, are proud of their sneaky ways. it makes them feel powerful.
I remember sitting in the court room and watching this creep judge just let the hoa lawyer on one side go on and on and on and on, smirking and laughing with the guy.
The homeowner lawyer stands up and couldn't get a word in edgewise. Meantime, the hoa board is in the 'audience', laughing and snickering as well. The board was talking about the cocktail party they were going to have when they 'finish off' this homeowner. they were happy to just sit there, feeling all powerful, spending all the homeowner's money on this arrogant, short little, napoleanic complex HOA lawyer who was more than happy to create dischord resulting in more money for him. greedy little bas-turd.
It was a modern day public lynching!
Posted Oct 12 2006 3:12PM CEST
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Here is another homeowner association lawyer harassment and trespassing by his process server
After the HOA lawyer was asked to go through my lawyer for the service... process server jumps over walls and gates and bangs on walls and doors.
See attached details and video tape information.
Posted Aug 29 2006 7:06PM CEST
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One way to avoid process servers is to keep your personal information as personal as you can keep it.
Sometimes simply using a P.O. Box address is enough to discourage a process server simply because it means that they will have to do more work to find out where to serve you.
Never allow your place of employment to be part of your credit report.
Never allow your address (street address) or phone number to be part of your credit report.
Sometimes something as simple as doing a quit claim deed from one spouse to another is enough to invalidate service as it normally takes documents like quit claim deeds to become part of obtainable information from the courts or any other agencies for at least thirty (30) days.
One other thing to be careful about is never pay your HOA dues with a personal check. A personal check is a wealth of information to a good process server or private investigator.
If you are afraid of a process server coming to your house to serve you or an individual who lives there that is over 18 on your behalf always have someone who is less than 18 answer the door and refuse to give information regarding your whereabouts.
Of course you cannot get around the process server forever; however; your main objective is to make the process server so exasperated that they wind up doing something illegal invalidating the service as a last resort.
Posted May 20 2006 12:59PM CEST
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Michael Cooper
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Process server information sources from Orange County Supervisor Bill Campbell:
Clerk Recorder Tom Daly's Office
Ordinances for County of Orange
Municipal Code Ordinances www.municode.com
Public Afffairs Office - Orange County
County Executive Office
Posted May 6 2006 1:21PM CEST
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Called the following government agencies on May 2 and 3, 2006 for process server regulations. Am still waiting for information from county lawmakers and enforcement agencies.
If anyone information on where the codes and regulations can be found for process servers, please advise. Thanks.
1. California Department of Consumer Offices - See Comment 1.
2. Sacramento District Attorney's Office. "The regulations on process servers is under the California Business & Professions Code Section Section 22356, 57,58 .Please call back if you need additional information."
3. Orange County Supervisor Wilson's Office - Will call back
4, Orange County Supervisor Bill Campbell - Will check and call back
5. Call to Orange County Sheriff. Jon Fleischman Will investigate and call back
6. Orange County Service of Civil Process - in the Orange County Courthouse and part of the Sheriff's Office - "Call the Sheriff's office"
Posted May 6 2006 11:55AM CEST
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let me tell ya somethin'.....if someone i didn't know was bangin' on the door or rummaging around the property i would call the cops first off. i would not take a chance, it could be a burglar or serial rapist and if they are trespassing - in some states they could be shot couldn't they?
sadly these days, i would be hesitant to even answer the door to a cop what with all the wackos who impersonate them. remember the young lady who got pulled over by a cop or chp in san diego area and was never seen alive again? you have no obligation to answer your door to any stranger. ever. why take a chance with your life????
Posted May 6 2006 12:15AM CEST
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Re: Comment 2. I've been trying to serve papers on a renter who didn't pay rent for 5 months.
It always sounds fishy to me when I hear stories of how people are served papers. That is because that person usually KNOWS papers are trying to be served on them. So that person typically "hides" to NOT be served. ... I am friends with some "bounty hunters". .... That's how they get most of their bounties.....I've been trying to serve papers on a renter who didn't pay rent for 5 months. It's been nearly impossible to do. Lance Tome - California
Lance Tome:
Did you read the question here is? It asks: How late can process servers serve people in California?
It is a technical question. And you use it to get on your soapbox and make a case for predators who invade homeowners associations to strip other people's home equity, and for your bounty hunter crowd.
Get a life. Get a real job. Build your own bounty.
The question has nothing to do with renters or disgruntled or deadbeat owners. It is about HOME OWNERS and PREDATORY CAI lawyers.
Are you a CAI foreclosure agent or evangelist masquerading on AHRC?
Posted May 4 2006 6:56PM CEST
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It's always been my to my knowledge that a "court server" can approach the "Servee" at anytime. It is usually based on the information they have gathered to where the person will be located at any given time.
It always sounds fishy to me when I hear stories of how people are served papers. That is because that person usually KNOWS papers are trying to be served on them. So that person typically "hides" to NOT be served. That's why you get those unusual stories of being served at "3 am" or at a restaurant. That is because most times the person being served is trying to be "sneaky" and avoid the papers.
I am friends with some "bounty hunters". They know their bail jumpers aren't where they say they are on the SIGNED papers. So they hang out in nightclubs or hotspots the person is known to hang out. That's how they get most of their bounties.
I've been trying to serve papers on a renter who didn't pay rent for 5 months. It's been nearly impossible to do. He knows he's being looked for so he hides. He uses a post office box so his REAL resident address can't be found to be served. So I have to find "alternate" ways of getting him served.
Posted May 2 2006 3:50PM CEST
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Lance Tome
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